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2025-06-27 Wiki work

Wiki work

  • Date: 2025-06-27
  • Present: jade, piegames
  • Topic: Information organization in the wiki and the homepage

Summary: We have a mess of information in the pad system which is not well organized by quality, and it's hard to deal with it.

Action items

  • Create a new book for founding-days Lix pad in the Wiki, migrate stuff there
  • Create a place for meeting notes in the wiki, with a nice template and everything
  • Clarify whether people are intended to edit each section of the wiki (or like somehow blanket make it clear that it is okay absent further information)
  • Maybe document a procedure for taking a matrix log (with LLM prompt for initial phase?) and turning it into more useful information
  • piegames can take care of migrating the governance-related pads, in the sense of finalizing them and getting them approved and making them official (this will take a lot of time though)
  • Rework https://wiki.lix.systems/link/9#bkmrk-freezes to reflect current processes
  • Create a "Developers Announcements" channel for low-volume communication between all devs

Meeting notes

  • Organization of the design documents is confusing

  • Need to explain contributions better

    • The "how to not write C++" is ill-located

  • Need governance meta related channel

  • We should probably move the resources page

  • We probably should have better organization of the "lix manifesto" related stuff

  • Related projects is ill located

  • Unclear where we want to put each thing, e.g. do community standards go on the website

  • minor wiggles moment of the quicklinks page being added to the website but not being linked anywhere

  • Stuff like cultural values and so need to escape the pad zone

  • IFD discussion pads

  • Discoverability problems

    • Wiki > Pads > Matrix

  • Pads problems

    • We sometimes archive matrix discussions into pads
    • Throw them into a large language model lol
    • Eg. improving IFD pad

  • Who does this work of archiving and librarian stuff

    • Could jade do this while tired at work?

  • Information organization

    • Wiki: stuff that should not connote endorsement and does not allow people to mess with wiki
    • piegames: this is kind of a problem for the governance pages
    • The website has no way to have table of contents and nesting support
    • Failure mode of not caring too much about too wide edit permissions is that people don't think that they are allowed to edit it

  • RFC process where it gets committed to a repo means that you know what actually is committed to

    • In general we cannot afford more process

  • This will burn out piegames if they have to do all the coordination labour in the project

    • How do we make this sustainable?

  • We can avoid having to do more of this by having a very minimal quality bar for the wiki and accept that it is going to become a mess

  • Archived stuff

  • Space for meeting notes

    • Write meeting notes with a template that requires that it says who was doing the meeting

  • Issues with pads is that we don't separate trash and useful information

    • Pad index is a mixture of stuff that is partially dev log and partially dev result
    • We should organize the dev log by date/topic, rather than by topic

  • piegames prefers a process and end result type note structure rather than these, which are a headache

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